I know this is beating a dead horse into the ground, however I just watched Fahrenheit 9/11 last night for the first time. I wish to say to the people who call it a documentary that it is not a documentary at all. It is an editorial, maybe even a drama. I walked away from the movie having seen some obvious stretches of the truth, a play on emotions, and having a lot of questions. I hopped on Google and have put several of the issues I had at ease. At the very least people, this should be an interesting brief read:
(I used http://www.davekopel.com/Terror/Fiftysix-Deceits-in-Fahrenheit-911.htm to answer some of my questions.)
1) Moore claims that Bush spent 42% of the first eight months in office on vacation time. What Moore neglects to mention is that he is counting weekends, which comprise 28% of the 42% figure. (68 of the 240 days estimated)
2) Moore claims that Bush never read the Security Briefing on August 6th 2001 that discussed the possibility of Osama attacking the US with airplanes. Moore is the only one who doesn’t believe that Bush read this briefing – it WAS vague (1 page long) and discussed the possibility of Osama using the plane to escape U.S.-held extremists. Nothing in this article, which is now declassified mentions flying airplanes into buildings.
3) Moore takes a jab at the Secret Service men protecting the Saudi embassy as it not being their jobs, and alledging a special Saudi privilege in our government. Actually, Article 22 of the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations states that it IS their job to protect any embassy.
4) Moore mentions that we are in Iraq because of a different agenda regarding the Unocal oil pipeline. The Unocal pipeline idea only existed on paper and was scrapped in 1998. The Caspian Sea pipeline has been proposed but construction hasn’t been started yet. Where did he get the oil pipeline footage?
So, the factiod crap aside, other things were a little misleading. There was a whole tangent about how the state of Oregon has one cop to defend the entire coastline. Last I checked, Oregon cops are paid by the state of Oregon, and it sounds like Oregon’s problem. Also, I don’t buy into the whole, “Before we dropped the bombs that killed civilians, children used to fly their kites out in the park” scene. Iraq was a dictatorship, and people were tortured, raped and imprisoned based on race and religious beliefs.
Also, the claim that “[Iraq] had never murdered a single American citizen” is horse shit. What about Saddam funding terrorist’s families to blow themselves apart? Or the assassination attempt on the president’s life? Or the harboring of known terrorists? Guilty by association. Plus the whole, um Gulf War thing. Moore in an interview later differentiates between the words “murdered” and “killed”.
There was a lot of other things that I thought was distasteful like following around the mother with a camera while she is crying her eyes out, and the asking of Senators to sacrifice their son’s lives, but I feel better now that I have gotten this all out of my system so I won’t harp on it. I am happy that Michael Moore is politically motivating people, but if you are going to be opposed to anything, do some research before you jump on the bandwagon. And just one more time, it isn’t a damned documentary.
He asked the secret service agent if they usually guard forien embassies and he said no. So either they do or they don’t? I don’t think it was distatsteful for him to follow the mother around while she was crying considering that she agreed to the film and the conditions of it. People other than Moore do that all the time and some times it is just part of the process. And I think he was right to go around and ask then senators to enlist their children since they decided to take us over there and continue to keep us over there. I think it is only fair. And I am on Moore’s bandwagon.
Well, I was astounded that you would make such a hazardous post on your website, but then I read Kristin’s response, and I became even more astounded. You and I both know that we shouldn’t jump on a bandwagon before finding out the facts for ourselves… but that’s precisely what this country did. Bush was able to hurl us into a war that we shouldn’t be in based upon fear, false information, lies, deceit, and false pretenses. I can understand your disagreement with Michael Moore, and whether you believe it to be a documentary or not, he does raise some extremely valid points of interest. I don’t wish to discuss them via a blog, but I’d be more than happy to get into a political debate sometime. Sure, Moore’s argument is filled with fallacies, but he hates the Bush family, so you can’t blame him. It was his oppurtunity to take a personal shot. I am afraid for this country after the last six years, and I have a feeling we will feel the aftershock of the current administration for many, many years to come. Anywho, yes, Michael Moore may have bent the truth a bit, and yes, he appealed to emotion, but dammit, a good documentary should do this. Even nature documentaries do it.
I’m sick of hearing people in the military and their parents whine about having to go to war. They signed up for it. There is no draft. You don’t join the military to play hop-n-skotch. Michael Moore does nothing but worsen the situation. People need to make up their own minds based on fact-based reports and not get spoon-fed the truth as someone else sees it.
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