TheHoagie: Wal-mart does not exist to me
Chris: there is a wal-mart everywhere?
TheHoagie: I do not see them
Chris: lol, did they insult your mother?
TheHoagie: To sumate the point I have for not shopping at Wal-Mart
TheHoagie: And I hope you are ready…
TheHoagie: Wal-Mart is the example of all large corporations seeking to undermine the US economy by driving down prices, and drawing in consumers in so doing, to the manufacturers to an impossibly low level. When the manufactures cannot fill these requests, they move their businesses overseas to reduce costs. The companies then lay off the American labor, and the unemployed then try to make ends meet by shopping at Wal-Mart, thus completing the evil cycle.
TheHoagie: Do you understand now?
Chris: I get that
Chris: but that’s like saying “I don’t like the way foreigners are in charge of our oil prices”
TheHoagie: So are you a believer now?
Chris: nobody likes it, but there isn’t a dang thing you can do about it
TheHoagie: Wait…there is though
TheHoagie: Don’t shop at Wal-Mart
Chris: so where do you buy shoes?
TheHoagie: A specialized shoe store
Chris: which competes with other shoe stores
TheHoagie: Foot Locker, Athletes Foot, etc
Chris: driving down prices
TheHoagie: Right, but all they do is shoes
Chris: and sustaining the drive to keep your shoes made in singapore
TheHoagie: As opposed to catering every product
Chris: unfortunatly, I see no place where you are not driving manufacturers elsewhere
Chris: which is the root of the problem
TheHoagie: I understand what you mean
TheHoagie: And for a large portion, you are right – there isnt a damn thing you can do about it
TheHoagie: But, I cant just completely take it in the ass from Wal-Mart
TheHoagie: I will always support the underdog, whoever it is at the time
Chris: I see your point, I’ve been over it many times with a friend of mine
Chris: it’s just difficult, because you can’t stop capitalism
Chris: nor would I want to
TheHoagie: So are we doomed?
TheHoagie: Or is there a way to stop this mess?
Chris: if there is a way
Chris: I’ve never figured it out
TheHoagie: Me neither
Chris: yeah, she’s wicked smart and she argues the exact same point you do
TheHoagie: You know, btw that Wal-Mart rivals the US Government in purchasing power?
TheHoagie: That scares me
Chris: I believe it, because I worked for a company that supplied grocery stores
Chris: wal-mart sold our products cheaper than anywhere else
Chris: becuase they ordered more,
Chris: kroger would sell 50 boxes and make 10 cents a box
Chris: more like $10 a box
TheHoagie: See that is messed up
Chris: walmart, sells 100 boxes and makes $5 a box
TheHoagie: That doesn’t even cover shipping costs
TheHoagie: There is no way a mom and pop shop can compete with that kind of power
Chris: but see most of what wal-mart buys, they don’t ship
Chris: I worked for a cookie company
TheHoagie: And yet, mom and pop shops is what our capitalism and entrapreneurial system is based on
Chris: we bought cookies, and sold them to wal-mart, kroger etc
Chris: they just open up the doors and let us sell the stuff
TheHoagie: The mass of cookies that you sold must have been a wake up call
Chris: but see, you can’t bring ma and pop stores back
Chris: believe me, I lived in ohio
TheHoagie: Well, even Wal-Mart at one point in time was “just a store”
Chris: it’s pretty backwards, there are more mom and pop stores there than anwhere I believe
Chris: but they’re all going away
TheHoagie: Sam Walton took a risk and it paid off
Chris: and is still paying off
TheHoagie: So where are all of these “Sam Walton” opportunities going to?
Chris: but what can you do about it?
Chris: to take them away goes against the very fabric of our economy as well
Chris: excuse me
Chris: for the government to take them away
TheHoagie: Trust busting is dead
TheHoagie: I just dont see any way of going back without government intervention
TheHoagie: And as it is now, Wal-Mart has more say than the government
TheHoagie: From a business perspective, if you are refused by Wal-Mart distribution, your business is dead
Chris: I don’t know if I would go that far
Chris: as a general rule, anything you buy from wal-mart you may purchase elsewhere
TheHoagie: True, but people don’t because of convienence
TheHoagie: Here is where I am pulling my information from
TheHoagie: Read that, it is damn interesting



  1. kain says:

    OK dude you have way to much time on your hands. Note to self…beware of all conversations with Ben cause he is recording them.


  2. Bellona says:

    I actually don't really understand why Wal-mart has the kind of business that they do. There is not one damn thing that is actually convienent about that store. For me, the prices are not low enough to deal with the continuous headache that is Wal-mart. You have to park a mile away from the store. The crowd is so large that it is like playing bumper carts around every corner. There are always 500 screaming kids whose slack ass parents will not correct them. And, if that is not enough, the lines for checkout are about as long as the lines for a ride at sixflags. Now that I think about it, you don't save any money at all in Wal-mart. The few extra dollars that you might save are now being used to buy the jumbo size, extra strenth ibuprofen that you will need after shopping there.


  3. John says:

    All of the things you listed Bellona are the reason I love Walmart. Watching large groups of people in that enviroment is very entertaining and enlightning. Not to mention, you can have so much fun by just injecting yourself into others lifes and business. It can be great stress relief.


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